What does an agnostic Christian such as meself got to say about the second coming of jesus?
All what i can say is that each time i do a kind deed to help another human being , animal or nature jesus comes to me in spirit. As an Agnostic christian thats how i understand the second coming of jesus.
Why do fundamentalist Christians say that i am wrong and only they are right?
This is what the angels said to the apostles when Jesus ascended into heaven:
"After he said this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight.
They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. "Men of Galilee," they said, "why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven."
Then they returned to Jerusalem from the hill called the Mount of Olives, a Sabbath day’s walk from the city."
Acts 1:9-12
I believe the angels were right, and it shall be exactly as they said.
In fact, this very thing was prophesied about 500 years earlier by the Prophet Zechariah. If you care to, you can read it here:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=zechariah%2014:1-5&version=NIV
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February 20 2010 07:56 pm | Christian
Brett A on 21 Feb 2010 at 1:27 am #
because they’re fundamentalists.
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vr63 on 21 Feb 2010 at 2:12 am #
Only God is right. Read his word! You’ll find it in the King James Version!
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King Leonidas on 21 Feb 2010 at 3:01 am #
Agnostic Christian?
Adding titles to yourself does not make you seem anymore intelligent. You can’t be agnostic christian, it doesn’t make sense.
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Fireball on 21 Feb 2010 at 3:16 am #
no such thing. Ppl believe or they dont..CHRISTIANS DO KNOW HE IS COMING BACK…first rapture happens and then 7 yrs of tribulation..
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Crystal on 21 Feb 2010 at 4:03 am #
What is an agnostic Christian? That sounds like an oxymoron.
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wefmeister on 21 Feb 2010 at 4:11 am #
This is what the angels said to the apostles when Jesus ascended into heaven:
"After he said this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight.
They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. "Men of Galilee," they said, "why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven."
Then they returned to Jerusalem from the hill called the Mount of Olives, a Sabbath day’s walk from the city."
Acts 1:9-12
I believe the angels were right, and it shall be exactly as they said.
In fact, this very thing was prophesied about 500 years earlier by the Prophet Zechariah. If you care to, you can read it here:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=zechariah%2014:1-5&version=NIV
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✞Ephesians 2:8 ✞ on 21 Feb 2010 at 4:27 am #
I am not saying that you are wrong Irish Girl…I believe that Jesus is with us each and every minute because He said Lo I am with you always…Where I stand upon Jesus coming physically is in Acts
"Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen Him go into heaven" (Acts 1:11).There are many more that confirm this also.
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HTacianas on 21 Feb 2010 at 5:06 am #
Luk 17:20 …The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
Luk 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
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Darren P on 21 Feb 2010 at 5:46 am #
if u believe what the bible says then u know that when jesus comes all the saints go to heaven with him. if u say that jesus comes to u and u see it as the second coming, that is wrong cuz jesus already told us what the second coming would be like. be careful about what u think u are seeing. read the bible.
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borhan on 21 Feb 2010 at 6:29 am #
Irish girl – the way you abuse Muhammad how could you be even a christen ..
learn what bible tell about Muhammad
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http://www.islamicity.com/Mosque/Muhammad_Bible.HTM
ozsalvo on 21 Feb 2010 at 6:37 am #
When will you learn that you cannot be a Agnostic Christian? such a statement is a contradiction.
Either you are an Agnostic or a Christian not both.
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Kannibal Klown on 21 Feb 2010 at 7:04 am #
Fundamentalists Are No Different That Some Atheists.
They Both Read The Bible And Take It Literally.
Nothing To Worry About, The Bible Was Never Ment To Be Taken Literally.
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Andy on 21 Feb 2010 at 7:10 pm #
PRETRIB RAPTURE SECRECY
by Dave MacPherson
The word “secrecy” when applied to Christ’s return can refer to two different things: time and visibility. Before 1830 the only coming Christians looked for was the “every eye shall see him” second advent to earth – secret only in point of time.
Enter Margaret Macdonald in 1830. She saw “the one taken and the other left” before “THE WICKED” [Antichrist] will “be revealed” – and added that her pretrib rapture would not be “seen by the natural eye” but only by “those who have the light of God within.” Her rapture was doubly secret: at an unknown day and hour and also invisible to “outsiders.”
Desperate to eliminate Margaret as the pretrib originator and the Irvingites as the first public teachers of pretrib, Darby defender Thomas Ice foolishly claims that they taught a secret POSTTRIB coming even though he knows that when Hal Lindsey teaches “one taken” etc. before the Antichrist “is revealed” Lindsey is expressing the kernel of the pretrib view – what MM and the Irvingites clearly taught before Darby did! Google “X-Raying Margaret” and “Edward Irving is Unnerving” to see why they are properly labeled “pretrib.”)
As early as June 1832, Irving’s journal taught that only “to those who are watching and praying…will Christ be manifested…as the morning star. To the rest of the church, and to the world, this first appearance will be…unintelligible.” (“Present State of Prophetic Knowledge” etc., p. 374)
Always trailing and “borrowing” quietly from the Irvingites who in turn had “borrowed” from Margaret, Darby in 1845 finally sounded like them when he wrote that “the bright and morning Star…is the sweet and blessed sign to them that watch…And such is Christ before He appears [at the final advent to earth]. The Sun will arise on the world….The star is before the [Sun], the joy of those who watch. The unwakeful world, who sleep in the night, see it not.” (“Thoughts on the Apocalypse,” p. 167)
And Lindsey’s “Late Great Planet Earth,” p. 143, says that “the second coming is said to be visible to the whole earth (Revelation 1:7). However, in the Rapture. only the Christians see Him – it’s a mystery, a secret.”
My bestselling book “The Rapture Plot” (available at online stores including Armageddon Books) has 300 pages of such documentation and proves that Margaret was the first to “see” a secret, pretrib rapture, that the Irvingites soon echoed her in their journal (which Darby admitted he avidly read), and that Darby was last on all of the crucial aspects of dispensationalism.
Shockingly, all of the earliest pretrib development rested solely on unclear OT and NT types and symbols and NOT on clear Biblical statements. Margaret’s rapture was inspired by Rev. 11’s “two witnesses.” And her “secret visibility” rested on the “types” of Stephen, Paul, and John – all of whom saw or heard what others couldn’t see or hear.
For 30 years Darby’s pretrib basis was the rapture of Rev. 12’s “man child” – actually his plagiarism of Irving’s usage of this “pretrib” symbol eight years earlier!
As I said at the start, the “second advent to earth” is secret in point of time with its unknown “day and hour,” as Christ stated. Pretribs assert that if Christ returns for the church after the tribulation, we could count down the days and figure out the actual date of His return – which would contradict Christ’s words.
But pretribs deliberately ignore the fact that Christ said that the tribulation days will be shortened – and He didn’t reveal the length of the shortening!
Our opponents also assume that the “watch” verses prove the “any-moment imminence” of Christ’s return. But do they? II Peter 3:12 says we are to be “looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God” which all premills claim is at least 1000 years ahead of us and therefore hardly “imminent”! What’s the difference between “watching for” and “looking for”?
You have just learned a few of the many secrets that the Secret Rapture Gang has hidden for a long time. Evidently they have forgotten Luke 12:2’s warning that “there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed”!
PS – For the ultimate in uncovered secrets, see engines like Google and type in “Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty.”
[I saw the foregoing a few minutes ago - Andy]